Sophie Ansari, Penn Badgley and Nava Kavelin, the perpetrators of “Podcrushed” (from The New York Times Web page)
It's articles like these that make me wonder whether my subscription to The New York Times is worth the time (and money):
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/12/arts/podcrushed-podcast.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Rk4.yCuj.UpgpDLgpMISk&smid=url-share
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